ASO AC Teleconference 5 December 2001
Present:
Mouhamed Diop (MD)
Ray Plzak (RP)
Richard Jimmerson (RJ)
Mirjam Kuehne (MK)
Sabine Jaume (SJ)
Barbara Rosemann (BR)
Erik Decker (ED)
John Crain (JC)
Hartmut Glaser (HG)
Hans Petter Holen (HPH)
Jianping Wu (JPW)
Cathy Wittbrodt (CWJ)
German Valdez (GV)
Takashi Arano (TA)
Raimundo Beca (RB)
Anne Lord (AL)
Seung Minh Lee (SML)
Agenda:
1. Welcome
2. Apologies received
3. Agenda Bashing
4. Minutes from November AC telephone conference
5. Status of open actions
6. ICANN IDN Committee
7. AC Physical meeting
8. AOB
1.Welcome
HPH opens the call at 22:05
Everybody introduces themselves to the new AC members
2. Apologies received from Louis Touton, Jorge Plano, Wilfried Woeber
3. Agenda Bashing
suggested new agenda items:
8. Report from the LACNIC (HG)
9. News from the ASO Secretariat, suggested as standard agenda item (MK)
10. ICANN at-large report (SJ)
11. Thanks to the leaving AC members (HPH)
4. Minutes from November AC telephone conference
AC approves the November minutes (including additions sent to the ASO
secretariat)
ACTION 0112-01 on SEC to publish the final minutes on the ASO web site
RP reminds everybody that the call is recorded
Suggestion to formally approve that the call is recorded: all AC
members vote for it, no objections
5. Status of open actions
ASO secretariat reads out the list of open actions
12-4 RIRs/IANA: Circulate draft resource request procedure document to
the AC
- OPEN
MK reports that the RIRs received comments from the IANA a while
ago. In the meantime the RIRs discussed them and will get together
during the IETF next week to draft a reply to the IANA
0111-01 SEC: find new teleconf bridge with some recording facilities
to make available on the Internet
- CLOSED
ARIN offered to use their telephone bridge, including recording
facilities
0105-7 SEC: to compile a list of attendees of upcoming meetings for
2001/2002 (long-term action)
- ONGOING
0106-3 all AC members: discuss how to divide AC chair tasks
- OPEN (to be continued in January 2002)
0106-7 HPH and BR: to draft a presentation for Vint Cerf and the ICANN
board. Send it to the AC for review. Then Vint can decide if he
thinks this would be useful to show to the Board
- OPEN
tabled until 2002. ASO secretariat has sent pointer to RIR IPv4
utilisation statistics to the ICANN board in the meantime.
0107-11 AC devise procedure for ICANN Board member selection in a
subcommittee (1. collect ideas and proposals, 2. write draft,
3. adapt results in a face to face meeting)
- OPEN
0111-02 SEC: send mail that was sent to ripe-list also to
the AC list
- OPEN
0111-03 SEC: send mail to ac-list to discuss the details of
ASO GA March 2002 meeting
- OPEN
later on the agenda
0109-5 AC: to continue discussion about physical AC meeting
on the mailing list
- ONGOING
later on the agenda
0109-3 CJW: to discuss additional text suggested by WW and incorporate
it in the proposed 'Process for AC chair nomination and
election'
- DONE
this procedure can be used from now on.
6. ICANN IDN Committee
HPH gives a short status report: HPH suggested to nominate RP, MD
also volunteered. There was some discussion on the AC list, the feeling
so far was that MD is a good choice.
HPH asks for any additional comments
CWJ wonders if both candidates are still willing to be nominated
RP confirms that he is still willing.
ED asks how many candidates are possible to be nominated
MK believes one candidate is needed
HPH explains that it is even more vague than that. ICANN is going to
select the members for the committee. Theoreticaly the ASO could propose
more than one.
ED suggests to propose both candidates as they combine a great set
of skills.
JC mentions that ICANN would ideally like to get one candidate, so that
they do not have to choose.
ED still believes there are benefits in both, each of them would be a
good addition to the IDN comittee. Leave it to ICANN to chose the person
with the expertise that is needed or missing at the committee.
HPH thinks this is a sensible idea.
The AC concluded to have the name of both candidates submitted to
ICANN.
MD stresses what he wrote to the ac-coord mailing list. He does
not have the experience with DNS that RP brings with him. However,
he is concerned with the process.
HPH wonders how this concern could be expressed.
RP suggests to MD to write this in an e-mail.
ACTION 0112-02 on MD: to send his concerns and motivations regarding the IDN
to the ac-coord list.
ACTION 0112-03 on HPH: to draft a mail to ICANN and send it to the AC
7. AC Physical meeting
HPH suggests to have a physical AC meeting in conjunction with the ASO
General Assembly. What other possibilities are there?
The next ICANN meeting will be in Accra, Ghana. The one after that
will be in eastern Europe, not sure yet, exactly where.
Most AC people would rather have all meetings combined. That means the
best option would be to have the meeting in bangkok in conjunction
with APRICOT and the ASO GA.
Discussion if it would be better to have the physical AC meeting
before or after the GA. The ICANN meeting is right after the APRICOT
and the ASO GA meetings, some people need to go to the ICANN
meeting. On the other hand it has advantage to have a physical meeting
after the ASO GA: the ICANN board candidates will have introduced
themselves. But then again, the AC will not select an ICANN board member
there and then.
Maybe have a workshop before the ASO GA together with RIR and ICANN
staff, and a pure AC meeting after?
Concluded to discuss the ASO GA agenda and physical AC meeting at the
next AC phone conference on 9 January 2002.
ACTION 0112-04 on SEC: prepare another meeting schedule for 2002 and
send it to the ac-coord mailing list.
8. LACNIC report
HG reports from the LACNIC meeting that took place in 28 November 2001
in Sao Paulo.
attendees from 16 countries were present, 55 emerging clients, 5 guests
(Andrew McLaughlin, John Crain, Axel Pawlik, Ray Plzak, Andrea Caro).
The agend was as follows:
a. IPv6 Tutorial
b. Official Opening
c. ICANN Report
d. ASO Report
e. LACNIC structure
f. RIR Reports
g. LACNIC Policies
The meeting went very well. HG thanks the RIRs for their support.
GV notes that LACNIC has submitted a formal application to ICANN.
RP adds that there are currently LACNIC trainees at the ARIN offices.
So far 13 IP address requests and 10 AS number requests from the LACNIC
region have been handled.
MD reports from progress made at AfriNIC: the web site has been
completely re-structured and updated. There will be an AfriNIC board
meeting in January.
HPH wishes AfriNIC good success.
9. Report from the ASO Secretariat
The call for nominations for an ICANN board member (Rob Blokzijls term
will end in October 2002) is sent out (90 days before the ASO GA) and
will be published on the ICANN web site tonight.
The ASO Secretariat will be transferred from the RIPE NCC to ARIn at
the end of the year.
10. ICANN AT-Large Committee
SJ reports from the at large committee: The committee delivered a
report, ICANN accepted the report. Should the AC have an opinion on
it?
HPH mentions that the RIPE LIR WG decided not to have an opinion on
this. This is the input he received.
HG suggests to wait for further discussion within ICANN
BR agrees. However, this could move very quickly. The meeting in Accra
might not be attended very well, decisions there might be heavy
handed. The AC needs to be prepared.
ACTION 0112-05 on SJ: to follow discussion and report back to the AC
MD believes one should be careful to make the ICANN structure not too
complicated
BR believes the AC should also think about if one wants to discuss
this with other groups like the PSO and DNSO
HPH encourages the AC members to also bring this back to he community
in order to hear what they think about this.
BR reports that at APNIC meeting in Taipei she got the impression that
the constituency wants the most minimal role possible for the ASO in
RIR policy. If we want to continue to play a role within the address
community, we need to be more proactive and not just ask the
community for input. The AC needs to be clear about what they want.
11. Thanks
HPH would like to formally thank the leaving AC members in the name of
the entire AC. He also thanks the ASO SEC at the RIPE NCC, specially
MK.
12. AOB
HG wonders if the AC should be involved in the budget process for ICANN.
RP points out that the RIRs are on the budget committee.
HPH says that he received a letter from ICANN, mentioning that the
RIRs are on the budget committee, but that the AC is also welcome to
comment (until 10 January 2002). However, maybe it would be better to
do this to through the RIRs.
RP: suggests to do it via the RIRs since they are also the ones who
will financially suport ICANN.
AC agrees.
ACTION 0112-06 on HPH to forward the e-mail Stuart Lynn sent regarding the
ICANN budget to the AC.
The meeting adjourns at 23:15.
ACTIONS CLOSED
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0101-3 SEC: determine costs for public listening facilities
0111-01 SEC: find new teleconf bridge with some recording facilities
to make available on the Internet
0105-8 SEC: to co-ordinate with the RIRs to decide when the next ASO
GA will take place
0107-2 BR to organise the formation of a committee (all three RIRs plus
1 AC member per region) to co-ordinate the documentation of
global policy
0107-3 HPH to draft message of intent describing the timeframe and
further process for regional discussions regarding the
documentation of global policy
0107-7 ALL: answer to LACNIC by 20th of July regarding meeting time
preferences
0109-1 SEC: to publish final version of July minutes
0109-2 RIRs: to announce RIR stats to ICANN and other appropriate
lists
0109-3 CJW: to discuss additional text suggested by WW and incorporate
it in the proposed 'Process for AC chair nomination and
election'
0109-4 HPH: to send a message to ac-coord with list of global policy
and/or procedure documents that need to be written, including
deadlines (in co-ordination with the RIRs).
0111-05 SEC: moderate list, double check why spam is sent to
the list
NEW ACTIONS
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0112-01 SEC: to publish the final November minutes on the ASO web site
0112-02 MD: to send his concerns and motivations regarding IDN
to the ac-coord list
0112-03 HPH: to draft a mail regarding the chosen candidate for the IDN
committee to ICANN and send it to the AC before
0112-04 SEC: prepare another meeting schedule for 2002 and
send it to the ac-coord mailing list.
0112-05 SJ: to follow discussion regarding the ICAN At-Large Committe
and report back to the AC
0112-06 HPH: to forward the e-mail Stuart Lynn sent regarding the
ICANN budget to the AC.
COMPLETE list of OPEN ACTIONS
-----------------------------
12-4 RIRs/IANA: Circulate draft resource request procedure document to
the AC
0105-7 SEC: to compile a list of attendees of upcoming meetings for
2001/2002 (long-term action)
0106-3 all AC members: discuss how to divide AC chair tasks
0106-7 HPH and BR: to draft a presentation for Vint Cerf and the ICANN
board. Send it to the AC for review. Vint can then decide if he
thinks this would be useful to show to the Board (on hold until
ICANN is concerned with other issues than DNS security; Q1/2002)
0107-11 AC devise procedure for ICANN Board member selection in a
subcommittee (1. collect ideas and proposals, 2. write draft,
3. adapt results in a face to face meeting)
0111-02 SEC: send RIPE-40 summary mail that was sent to ripe-list
also to the AC list
0111-03 SEC: send mail to ac-list to discuss the details of
ASO GA March 2002 meeting
0109-5 AC: to continue discussion about physical AC meeting
on the ac-coord mailing list
0111-04 SEC: send pointers to IPv4 utilisation statistics to AC
0112-01 SEC: to publish the final November minutes on the ASO web site
0112-02 SEC: to publish 'Process for AC chair nomination and
election' on ASO web site
0112-03 MD: to send his concerns and motivations regarding IDN
to the ac-coord list
0112-04 HPH: to draft a mail regarding the chosen candidate for the IDN
committee to ICANN and send it to the AC before
0112-05 SEC: prepare another meeting schedule for 2002 and
send it to the ac-coord mailing list
0112-06 SJ: to follow discussion regarding the ICAN At-Large Committe
and report back to the AC
0112-07 HPH: to forward the e-mail Stuart Lynn sent regarding the
ICANN budget to the AC.
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