ASO AC Teleconference 3 January 2001
Present: Hans Petter Holen (HPH) Sabine Jaume (SJ) Cathy Wittbrodt (CJW) Raimundo Beca (RB) (for Dave Meyer) Barbara Roseman (BR) (for Raimundo Beca) Louis Touton (LT) Takashi Arano (TA) Ray Plzak (RP) Richard Jimmerson (RJ) Seung-Min Lee (SML) Hartmut Glaser (HG) German Valdez (GV) Mouhamet Diop (MD) Mirjam Kuehne (MK) Apologies: Ant Brooks Wilfried Woeber Jianping Wu Agenda: 1. Welcome 2. Agenda bashing 3. Minutes from December phone meeting 4. Status of open actions 5. Election of Chair and co-chairs 6. Public listening facility to AC phone conferences 7. Initial report from the ASO General Assembly Program Committee 8. Status on 'RIR-ICANN resource request procedures' 9. Status on policy and practice comparison document 10 Plans for input forums on upcoming meetings 10.1 RIPE 38, 22 - 26 January 2001 10.2 APNIC 11, 26 February - 2 March 2001 10.3 ICANN 10 - 13 March 2001 10.4 ARIN VII, 1 - 4 April 2001 10.5 RIPE 39, 30 April - 4 May 2001 10.6 ICANN, 1 - 4 June 2001 1. Welcome HPH opened meeting at 22:05, noting that there was a quorum of AC members present. 2. Agenda bashing agenda approved 3. Minutes from telephone conference in December They were circulated by the ASO Secretariat. A few comments were sent to Paul Wilson. Including these comments, the minutes are approved. ACTION 0101-1 on PW to include these comments ACTION 0101-2 on SEC to publish minutes on ASO site 4. Status of open actions 12-1 SEC: Publish September teleconference minutes on the ASO web site - DONE 12-2 SEC: Publish October teleconference minutes on the ASO web site - DONE 12-3 SEC: Publish October workshop minutes on the ASO web site (under "Other Meetings"); - published, but not under Other Meetings, will be changed by SEC 12-4 RIRs: Circulate draft resource request procedure document to AC - see agenda point 8 12-5 RIRs: Write policy and procedure comparison document - see agenda point 9 10-2 SEC: set up aso-council mailing list; - set up, but problems with sending mail to the list, SEC will look into it PW: document development process of Emerging RIRs document - DONE HPH: incorporate changes to AC resolution on Emerging RIR doc, recirculate to AC, and send to ICANN - OPEN SEC: Advice successful candidates and ICANN, of AC appointments to IRP nomcom - OPEN GAPC (General Assembly Program Committee): Start work, elect chair, and report back to AC - see agenda point 7 SEC: Draft call for nominations to ICANN Board, for publication before end of December; - DONE ALL: Discuss request for public listening facility on the mailing list - see agenda point 6 ALL: Decide on ASO meeting at next ICANN meeting (during next teleconference) - see agenda point 10 5. Election of Chair and co-chairs HPH sent a mail to the AC mailing list prior to phone conference discussing this issue, thinks annual election would be appropriate. Some proposals were made on the list as to how to organise this and who would be possible candidates. WW generally prefers to do chair elections during physical meetings. Next physical meeting will be in April 2001 in conjunction with the ASO AGM in San Francisco. This would also allow the RIPE region to elect an AC member for this year before the elections. HPH notes that if the AC chair election would take place at a meeting in April 2001, the terms of the chair and the terms of the AC members would not be aligned. Louis suggests to elect a chair in principle at the January AC telephone conference meeting, so that the newly elected AC member can vote as well. No objections to do the elections in April at the meeting in San Francisco. 6. Public listening facility to AC phone conferences HPH listened in to the Names Council telephone conference. He begins to understand that the people who elect the AC members could be interested to know how the AC members function and operate. Only reading the minutes does not necessarily show how decisions are derived. HPH wonders if the regional policy forums should be consulted to find out if they really have this desire and requirement. LT mentions that there is some cost involved which he assumes the RIRs would cover. Ray says that ARIN would be willing to establish a listening node at its facility. LT clarifies that the Names Council offers 20 talk+listening ports and 20 listening-only ports TA generally agrees with HPHs ideas. HPH wonders how to proceed further. Should the regional policy forums be involved? Should the AC ask the RIRs to investigate public listening facilities? LT suggests to ask the ASO Secretariat to determine what the costs would be and then to ask the RIRs if they would cover these costs. RP, RJ and MK have no objections to this. It's agreed to proceed like Louis suggested. ACTION 0101-3 on SEC to determine costs for public listening facilities 7. Initial report from the ASO General Assembly Program Committee SJ reports that the Program Committee will meet during RIPE 38 in January 2001. RP and RJ mention that they will also attend RIPE 38 and would be available for co-ordination of the venue, etc. HPH received a mail from ARINs member services person regarding possible requirements for the ASO AGM. He will send it to the Program Committee. BR will make sure ARIN receives the necessary information. ACTION 0101-4 on HPH to forward ARINs mail to ASO AGM program committee ACTION 0101-5 on Program Committee (BR) to send requirements for ASO AGM to ARIN 8. Status on 'RIR-ICANN resource request procedures' RJ reports that the RIRs spent an entire afternoon working on this document. It is almost finalised. Some last comments from PW need to be incorporated before it can then be sent to IANA and the AC. 9. Status on policy and practice comparison document Significant progress made, RIRs agreed on structure and format and started to fill in the details. However, original time line was too aggressive. It is reasonable to assume that it will be finalised before the ASO AGM in April 2001. HPH notes that this would be too late for the January RIPE 38 Meeting. He thought the original time line was set to allow regional policy forums to give feedback and input. MK agrees that this would be a good idea. RIRs will discuss what could be reported to the RIR communities at this point in time. HPH suggests to consider this also for the 'RIR-ICANN resource request procedures'. RJ states that this document describes an administrative procedure between the IANA and the RIRs. However, the RIRs and IANA can certainly report from his activity, but is not meant to be a policy document. LT agrees. 10 Plans for input forums on upcoming ICANN meetings 10.1 RIPE 38, 22 - 26 January 2001 10.2 APNIC 11, 26 February - 2 March 2001 HPH asks the AC members from the APNIC region (no other AC member will attend the meeting)if they are planning to organise an AC open forum at the APNIC 11 meeting. BR iterates that this would be a good opportunity for the APNIC community to find out what it is going on and to provide input since not all of them will be able to attend the ASO AGM in April 2001. The AC members from the APNIC region will discuss this among themselves and send mail to the AC. ACTION 0101-6 on SML to inform the AC about possible AC open forum at APNIC meeting in March 10.3 ICANN 10 - 13 March 2001 ACTION 0101-7 on SEC to check which of the AC members intend to be present at the ICANN Meeting in Melbourne and will organise the input forum. 10.4 ARIN VII, 1 - 4 April 2001 ASO AGM will take place in conjunction with the ARIN meeting 10.5 RIPE 39, 30 April - 4 May 2001 HPH assumes that there will probably also be an AC open forum. 10.6 ICANN, 1 - 4 June 2001 HPH plans to attend the ICANN meeting in Stockholm, not clear yet who else will attend. 11. AOB HPH urges all AC members to read his mail titled 'ASO 2001 issues, goals and work plan' and comment on it. ------------ ACTIONS ACTIONS DONE: 12-1 SEC: Publish September teleconference minutes on the ASO web site 12-2 SEC: Publish October teleconference minutes on the ASO web site PW: document development process of Emerging RIRs document SEC: Draft call for nominations to ICANN Board, for publication before end of December ALL: Discuss request for public listening facility on the mailing list ALL: Decide on ASO meeting at next ICANN meeting (during next teleconference). NEW ACTIONS (as of 3 January 2001): 12-3 SEC: Move October workshop minutes to "Other Meetings" on the ASO web site 10-2 SEC: check operations of aso-council mailing list 0101-1 PW to include these comments 0101-2 SEC to publish minutes on ASO site 0101-3 SEC to determine costs for public listening facilities 0101-4 HPH to forward ARINs mail to ASO AGM program committee 0101-5 Program Committee (BR) to send requirements for ASO AGM to ARIN 0101-6 SML to inform the AC about possible AC open forum at APNIC meeting in March 0101-7 SEC to check which of the AC members intend to be present at the ICANN Meeting in Melbourne and will organise the input forum. Complete list of ACTIONS: 12-3 SEC: Move October workshop minutes to "Other Meetings" on the ASO web site 12-4 RIRs: Circulate draft resource request procedure document to AC 12-5 RIRs: Write policy and procedure comparison document 10-2 SEC: check operations of aso-council mailing list HPH: incorporate changes to AC resolution on Emerging RIR doc, recirculate to AC, and send to ICANN SEC: Advice successful candidates and ICANN, of AC appointments to IRP nomcom GAPC (General Assembly Program Committee): Start work, elect chair, and report back to AC 0101-1 PW to include these comments 0101-2 SEC to publish minutes on ASO site 0101-3 SEC to determine costs for public listening facilities 0101-4 HPH to forward ARINs mail to ASO AGM program committee 0101-5 Program Committee (BR) to send requirements for ASO AGM to ARIN 0101-6 SML to inform the AC about possible AC open forum at APNIC meeting in March 0101-7 SEC to check which of the AC members intend to be present at the ICANN Meeting in Melbourne and will organise the input forum. ----------------- Future meetings: 07 February 22:00 UTC Phone Conf 07 March 22:00 UTC Phone Conf 04 April proposed physical meeting next to ASO AGM 04 April proposed General Assembly 02 May 22:00 UTC Phone Conf (during RIPE 39, Bologna) 06 June 22:00 UTC Phone Conf 04 July 22:00 UTC Phone Conf 01 August 22:00 UTC Phone Conf 05 September 22:00 UTC Phone Conf 03 October 22:00 UTC Phone Conf
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