Re: [aso-policy] RE: [aso-comment] IP address holders - are they represented?

[KS LIM <ks_lim@logchina.com.sg>]

!Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
> 
> First off Phil - it's not my business to write free DNS servers.  You've
> made the old ad-homin argument, completely irrelevant to the issue - but
> it sounds good.
> 
> Vixie provided us with a DNS server which was free.  Yes I accept
> that.  But it does not change the FACT that Vixie gave us garbage.  As I
> have said, during his term as BIND maintener every single issue of BIND is
> hacker friendly.  That is a FACT.
> 
> So since the internet runs almost exclusively on BIND servers produced by
> Vixie and friends.  It is also a FACT that the DNS is the single point on
> the internet which is vulnerable to attack because of this.
> 
> That's nothing to tip one's hat too.  I might also say that Vixie sendmail
> has also been a beast loaded with vulnerabilities.
> 
> Vixie has stuck the world with a delima which will not be fixed in the
> short term.  The fact Vixies name is well documented in the record as
> being the person responsible for this mess is not a credit to him.
> 
> Abraham Lincoln said it best "You can fool some of the people some of the
> time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time".  I have not
> been fooled.  Have you?

DEar Sir
For us, NO! When we choose to use BIND, we are all aware of what we are
in for.
We can't blame anybody else except ourselves.


> 
> Mr. Vixies resignation as the BIND maintener was very telling and
> appropriate.

I don't know Mr Vixies personally but I find your comment unnecessarily
harsh and particularly mean! From your track record it seems you are a
person who has contributed (and also like to  contribute) to the
community at large. I don't understand your attitude in this particular
incidence.
Regards.
> 
> Regards
> Joe Baptista
> 
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Phil Pennock wrote:
> 
> > As far as I am aware, nobody here is preventing you from writing a
> > better DNS server and releasing it for free.
> >
> > When I check the RFC index, the name 'Vixie' crops up quite a bit.  D.
> > Conrad is listed as a co-author of RFC2050 "Internet Registry IP
> > Allocation Guidelines".  I see no mention of the name 'Baptista'.
> >
> > "In the good old days" you'd have been told to "put up or shut up".
> >
> > When you can provide details of model which you'd like to see used, with
> > an analysis of the pros and cons, justifying each argument instead of
> > making vague "this works" comments, or when you write a DNS server and
> > give it away for free, then your comments on both these topics may carry
> > some weight, even with nobodies like me.  From what I've seen so far,
> > you're even more arrogant that I am (which takes some doing) and you
> > keep trying to rip apart the present framework without having proposed a
> > workable one to replace it.
> >
> > This is just my opinion.  I've not written a DNS server, but then I'm
> > not criticising the one which is available to me for free.  I've not
> > proposed a model of an alternative structure for ARIN/ICANN/etc, but I'm
> > not advocating that we immediately replace it with another, extremely
> > vaguely specified, system.  I don't particularly like some aspects of
> > the current System, but I hope that should I make a post which explains
> > which ones I dislike, then I will at least provide a coherent logical
> > and consistent argument which is based upon evidence, without major
> > holes in it.
> >
> > My apologies if my tone offends - I have just become extremely irritated
> > at the recent spate of posts from various parties which have made
> > sweeping statements and said "do this, because it's morally right,
> > because".
> > --
> > --> Phil Pennock, DeathWatch Admin.
> > "We've got a patent on the conquering of a country through the use of force.
> >  We believe in world peace through extortionate license fees."  -Bluemeat
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